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Post by kneazle on Apr 13, 2024 1:41:19 GMT -5
OK? Least 6 people have been stabbed and/or shot at Bondi Westfield (shopping mall)
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Post by HalcyonDaze on Apr 13, 2024 1:42:51 GMT -5
what? I've totally missed that.
Shit, that's a big Jewish area (clarifying, one of the areas with a large Jewish population), so I really hope it is a random nut job and not a targeted attack.
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Post by kneazle on Apr 13, 2024 1:44:03 GMT -5
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Post by HalcyonDaze on Apr 13, 2024 1:45:22 GMT -5
Yeah, following now.
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Post by HalcyonDaze on Apr 13, 2024 1:55:18 GMT -5
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Post by fishface on Apr 13, 2024 2:38:26 GMT -5
Shit that is scary
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Post by groo on Apr 13, 2024 3:00:21 GMT -5
Appalling!
There's the small consolation that at least the bastard (s?) didn't have a gun.
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Post by HalcyonDaze on Apr 13, 2024 3:19:50 GMT -5
I switched off the commercial news after about 5 mins, too much sensationalism and talking without having any info.
Will wait for SBS
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Post by wombatrois on Apr 13, 2024 3:29:13 GMT -5
Gun also, but the small consolation is he's dead.
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Post by HalcyonDaze on Apr 13, 2024 3:43:56 GMT -5
So when I turned the TV back on, CH 9 was still reporting on Bondi, so they'd been covering it for at least 30 mins. Interviewing so many traumatised onlookers.
SBS devoted 10 mins of info, about one interview and the announcement from the cops. No speculation.
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Post by ozziegiraffe on Apr 13, 2024 4:39:13 GMT -5
Gun also, but the small consolation is he's dead. The gun was the female police inspector who was in the area, and shot the perpetrator. Shocking to see this when you turn on the tv to watch the local news. Channel 9 dropped all our local stories, just spread the Sydney coverage across the country. ABC showed the PM, but did have other news. So far, apart from the 9-month-old baby who was stabbed, all the victims who’ve been mentioned by bystanders have been women. I know it’s conjecture, but…. |
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Post by HalcyonDaze on Apr 13, 2024 4:59:47 GMT -5
could easily be because women were less likely to fight back? And higher percentage of women in a shopping mall?
There is footage of one guy grabbing a bollard and standing at the top of the escalator, stopping the killer from coming up.
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Post by Liiisa on Apr 13, 2024 7:04:31 GMT -5
Oh crap you guys. I'm glad you all are ok.
They stabbed a BABY? Wtf. Horrible.
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Post by ozziegiraffe on Apr 13, 2024 7:08:18 GMT -5
None of us are likely to go shopping in that part of the city. It’s on the other side of the harbour from Crazy and Hal, and from where Groo and I grew up.
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Post by Liiisa on Apr 13, 2024 7:15:04 GMT -5
In this country, he'd have had an AR-15 and 35 people would be dead.  Not to minimize how sad this is, of course.... |
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Post by HalcyonDaze on Apr 13, 2024 7:18:22 GMT -5
In this country, he'd have had an AR-15 and 35 people would be dead. Not to minimize how sad this is, of course.... And yet dickheads from the US are busy commenting online that if we were allowed guns this wouldn't have happened, as someone would have shot him. Not stopping to think that yeah, he probably would have had a weapon as well. Police have said he was known to them, not formally identified yet, and they don't believe terrorism. My ex cop friend and another lawyer friend are assuming that is code for mental health and/or drug issues. If you want updates, look at 6News on twitter. Teenagers running a news service, but consistently good and will work out to verify things before sharing. Stick with facts, not wild theories. |
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Post by HalcyonDaze on Apr 13, 2024 7:20:00 GMT -5
None of us are likely to go shopping in that part of the city. It’s on the other side of the harbour from Crazy and Hal, and from where Groo and I grew up. Was thinking earlier about how tribal Sydney is - I only have a handful of people I know who live over that way. One was in the Westfield today but left about 5 minutes before it all started |
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Post by Liiisa on Apr 13, 2024 7:20:51 GMT -5
Dickheads indeed. And but wait, somebody did shoot him: a cop, the only person who should be assumed to have a gun in these sorts of situations.
Crazy that it's called Westfield - we have a bunch of malls here called Westfield too. Is it some global mall-corporation? I still call them what they were called when I was a teenager: Wheaton Plaza, Montgomery Mall... enough of this Westfield business.
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Post by HalcyonDaze on Apr 13, 2024 7:24:01 GMT -5
Same corporation, or at least it was. Started by Frank Lowy.
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Post by ozziegiraffe on Apr 13, 2024 7:31:12 GMT -5
None of us are likely to go shopping in that part of the city. It’s on the other side of the harbour from Crazy and Hal, and from where Groo and I grew up. Was thinking earlier about how tribal Sydney is - I only have a handful of people I know who live over that way. One was in the Westfield today but left about 5 minutes before it all started I actually had dinner with friends in Bondi Junction a few years back. I suspect we were en route to or from the airport, and had time to kill. |
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Post by wombatrois on Apr 13, 2024 7:41:01 GMT -5
I lived in the eastern suburbs a million years ago, and this was one of the places I frequented (although the shopping centre was a little different back then).
Understandable that you wouldn't travel across town in Sydney - the traffic!
There are a lot of stabbing incidents in Australia these days, precisely because there are few guns. There are still gun deaths, but usually the victims are targeted, not random (i.e. bikie gangs etc).
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Post by HalcyonDaze on Apr 13, 2024 7:42:04 GMT -5
Yes, there was a stabbing outside a school in Sydney yesterday.
One dead.
Teenagers, and possibly gang related.
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Post by ozziegiraffe on Apr 13, 2024 7:52:45 GMT -5
There are a lot of stabbing incidents in Australia these days, precisely because there are few guns. There are still gun deaths, but usually the victims are targeted, not random (i.e. bikie gangs etc). One of the things police needed to check my car for, after it was stolen, was “sharps” ie guns and knives. They also noticed that my cutlery drawer had been left half open, although nothing appeared to have been taken. Apparently the little twerps usually arm themselves with knives. A man just north of here was attacked by two teenagers with an axe this week, and fended them off with a knife, killing one of them. |
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Post by Liiisa on Apr 13, 2024 8:48:14 GMT -5
An axe! Yiiikes
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Post by riverhorse on Apr 13, 2024 9:37:07 GMT -5
Dickheads indeed. And but wait, somebody did shoot him: a cop, the only person who should be assumed to have a gun in these sorts of situations. Crazy that it's called Westfield - we have a bunch of malls here called Westfield too. Is it some global mall-corporation? I still call them what they were called when I was a teenager: Wheaton Plaza, Montgomery Mall... enough of this Westfield business. I spent several years working in their corporate headquarters in Sydney. I remember in about June 2001 we were all called to a big meeting where Lowy Jnr announced a hugely prestigious project they'd just signed off on, leasing the huge shopping centre underneath the World Trade Center. We lost quite a few people on 9/11. |
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Post by tzarine on Apr 13, 2024 10:26:04 GMT -5
yes westfield!
they own a bunch of stateside malls
liisa,
can total believe those gun idiots "if people had guns, they woulda shot him"
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Post by Liiisa on Apr 13, 2024 10:57:21 GMT -5
Oh yikes river And yes tzarine, sadly |
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Post by Webs on Apr 13, 2024 16:13:07 GMT -5
In this country, he'd have had an AR-15 and 35 people would be dead. Not to minimize how sad this is, of course.... And yet dickheads from the US are busy commenting online that if we were allowed guns this wouldn't have happened, as someone would have shot him. Given the number of shootings that were "prevented" by a good guy with a gun, that's another ignorant asshole trumpanzee. Heck, trained law enforcement professionals failed to block an armed guy from entering a public school in Uvalde, so we know they're uselss. |
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Post by ozziegiraffe on Apr 13, 2024 17:38:19 GMT -5
Just being announced this morning. He was a 40-year-old from Queensland with mental health issues. 5 women and 1 man died. 12 in hospital, serious but stable.
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Post by Webs on Apr 13, 2024 20:00:26 GMT -5
I have mental health issues. I've never harmed anyone. I'm sick of them using "mental health issues" as an excuse for these kinds of violent attacks.
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