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Post by psw on Mar 22, 2024 9:19:31 GMT -5
As if life wasn’t complicated enough at the moment, I got a notice today that I could be called up for a jury any time in the next year. In my state you can get an exemption if you're over 70, also for several other reasons including disability. What are your local rules? We also have "one day or one trial," so if you're not empaneled you're off the hook for several years. This actually broadens the jury pool because you're no longer trapped showing up every day for a week or a month. It's harder for teachers, health care people, etc, to get exempted. If your one day is inconvenient you can reschedule. This started as an experiment in one county and was a great success, so it's now state-wide.
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Post by tinaja on Mar 22, 2024 15:56:00 GMT -5
I am assuming that laundry soap pods are worse for the environment. I bought liquid last time. Supposedly would be 94 loads. No way. Maybe I overused, but I don't think so. I am going back to pods. I need to know when I am running low by counting them.
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Post by ozziegiraffe on Mar 22, 2024 17:39:35 GMT -5
As if life wasn’t complicated enough at the moment, I got a notice today that I could be called up for a jury any time in the next year. In my state you can get an exemption if you're over 70, also for several other reasons including disability. What are your local rules? We also have "one day or one trial," so if you're not empaneled you're off the hook for several years. This actually broadens the jury pool because you're no longer trapped showing up every day for a week or a month. It's harder for teachers, health care people, etc, to get exempted. If your one day is inconvenient you can reschedule. This started as an experiment in one county and was a great success, so it's now state-wide. There are a number of reasons for exemptions here. You don’t have to show up every day, waiting to be called. I have to go online (that wasn’t even possible last time I was called in) and register my mobile for SMS. If I’m likely to be needed, I have to go in. I don’t mind doing it, but I hope I don’t get a call in until after I move house.
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Post by Liiisa on Mar 22, 2024 19:43:36 GMT -5
I am assuming that laundry soap pods are worse for the environment. I bought liquid last time. Supposedly would be 94 loads. No way. Maybe I overused, but I don't think so. I am going back to pods. I need to know when I am running low by counting them. I think it depends on the brand of pods? I did read that even with the best pods (e.g., Seventh Generation), that the framework of the pods has some kind of plasticizer in them - but then with the liquid you're dealing with a big plastic jug, so -- ?
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Post by Phar Lap on Mar 22, 2024 21:01:10 GMT -5
I am assuming that laundry soap pods are worse for the environment. I bought liquid last time. Supposedly would be 94 loads. No way. Maybe I overused, but I don't think so. I am going back to pods. I need to know when I am running low by counting them. I think it depends on the brand of pods? I did read that even with the best pods (e.g., Seventh Generation), that the framework of the pods has some kind of plasticizer in them - but then with the liquid you're dealing with a big plastic jug, so -- ? Concerned about the Universe? Let’s go back to the 50’s! My mum had to wash everything by hand in these double concrete wash tubs in the laundry which was outside naturally! A cake of Velvet soap in one hand, my poor mum scrubbed and scrubbed and rubbed and rubbed everything from sheets to undies then repeated the action sans soap to rinse the clothing. No wonder one whole day was dedicated to “Wash Day” and another day to “Ironing”! Monday is Washing day Tuesday is Ironing day Wednesday is Mending day Thursday is Shopping day Friday is Cleaning day Saturday is Baking day Sunday is Rest day!
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Post by ozziegiraffe on Mar 22, 2024 21:09:59 GMT -5
So now my tv screen picture has died. I don’t want even to look for a new one until I move!
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Post by groo on Mar 22, 2024 21:20:29 GMT -5
Luxury!
Not only was the laundry outside, but my mother had first to flash up the wood burning copper. If 'twere bath night she had to carry the hot water into the house from the laundry to the bathroom. The posh people across the road had a wood burning chip heater in their bathroom.
And there were wolves ... and snow ...
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Post by Liiisa on Mar 22, 2024 21:21:15 GMT -5
Wow Phar, that's an unimaginable amount of work.
ozzie I think you're going to need a nice long relaxing vacation at the end of all this!
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Post by groo on Mar 22, 2024 22:10:34 GMT -5
As if life wasn’t complicated enough at the moment, I got a notice today that I could be called up for a jury any time in the next year. I've never been called for jury service. My father used always to wear his darkest suit and his most intimidating glasses and glare at the defence counselwehen called for jury selecton. He was always challenged.
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Post by whothingie on Mar 23, 2024 2:48:55 GMT -5
Groo. I had a few call ups too. Boss and I on the same intake. He wore his city suit, I wore my work suit and my best intimidating persona. Never been picked yet, but there is an age limit now. Probably realized we old people need wee stops regularly which interrupts the flow. Pun intended.
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Post by ozziegiraffe on Mar 23, 2024 3:24:12 GMT -5
Well, I’ve managed to register SMS, email and bank account details online.I was once empaneled on a jury, but he changed his plea to guilty. In current circumstances, I won’t have much sympathy with anyone charged with breaking amd entering or stealing cars.
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Post by HalcyonDaze on Mar 23, 2024 3:48:01 GMT -5
I was called up when LC was in primary school but was able to put in an exemption due to his age and the fact he wasn't enrolled in any after school care.
My issue - the Coles website was not working when I tried to do my order so I had to download the app.
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Post by HalcyonDaze on Mar 23, 2024 3:48:30 GMT -5
and now the website is working. Grrr
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Post by psw on Mar 23, 2024 8:30:19 GMT -5
I was called several times for jury duty. I filled out the form as PSW, J.D., and employment as administrative magistrate under Chapter X Paragraph Y. A couple of times I actually sat in a jury box for a few minutes during selection, but was always challenged off. I really would have liked to have the experience, but the attorneys never wanted me. I knew too much.
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Post by Liiisa on Mar 23, 2024 10:54:43 GMT -5
I'd like to have the experience of serving on a jury sometime. But the only time I got called up, I was in the middle of some huge deadline and was so glad to be rejected. The best way to end up on a jury is to move to DC proper, which has lots of pending court cases and a very small population, half of whom are probably lawyers and therefore likely ineligible for reasons cited above by psw.
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Post by psw on Mar 23, 2024 11:47:26 GMT -5
Oh, legally I'm eligible, but lawyers don't like other lawyers on a jury.
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Post by Liiisa on Mar 23, 2024 12:02:28 GMT -5
That's what I meant - I should have put ineligible in quotes
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Post by lillielangtry on Mar 23, 2024 15:03:00 GMT -5
I did jury service in the UK, must have been about 2005. It was quite an interesting experience and not one I'm likely to repeat, as Germany doesn't have juries.
In England (not sure about the other UK nations) you served for 2 weeks usually but as our first case was 9 days, we didn't get another one. This was good as it was the week before Christmas.
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Post by Liiisa on Mar 23, 2024 15:54:13 GMT -5
as Germany doesn't have juries. Wait, what? So how does it work?
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Post by lillielangtry on Mar 23, 2024 16:05:19 GMT -5
as Germany doesn't have juries. Wait, what? So how does it work? Um, cases are decided by a judge or a panel of judges. 2 of the panel of 3 may be sort of lay judges (Schöffe) - they receive training but do not necessarily have a legal background and are essentially volunteers. I should add that the German lawyers I speak to are rather shocked by the concept of juries. I think they think serious criminal cases nowadays tend to be too complex to be decided by members of the public. Of course you can disagree with that view, but there are plenty of countries that don't have them.
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Post by Liiisa on Mar 23, 2024 16:21:07 GMT -5
Wow, I had NO idea. And I kind of get it -- like why is my fate being decided by 12 randos? But it's shocking to think of in the context of some of our corrupt right-wing judges.
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Post by psw on Mar 23, 2024 19:23:10 GMT -5
This is why jury selection has become quite a game. There are some very expensive people working as jury consultants in high-profile cases, advising attorneys what sort of questions to ask individuals in the jury pool to assure that they really are unbiased, they don't know anyone associated with the case, they haven't read or heard all about it in the local media, etc. Sometimes lawyers ask for a criminal case to be tried in a different city (change of venue) to increase the chance of an unbiased jury pool, etc. etc. Most of the time it works pretty well.
And there are categories of civil (non-criminal) cases that are decided by judges, not juries. It varies from one state to another. And even in a civil case, there must be a Jury Demand. Our favorite Orange Menace forgot to file a jury demand and got a bench/judge trial in one of his civil cases, then made a huge public stink about the lack of a jury when his own lawyer never asked for one.
I'll stop now.
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Post by tzarine on Mar 23, 2024 19:51:48 GMT -5
psw jury consultants are scary. criminal attorneys can be total hardasses.
ive never been called. ive been interviewed. once the case was bout a guy who was attacked w a tool that the subway workers failed to put away safely.
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Post by ozziegiraffe on Mar 23, 2024 20:07:23 GMT -5
I’d rather like to have the experience, but not until after I get all the house moving stuff over.
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Post by sprite on Mar 26, 2024 12:32:24 GMT -5
I am assuming that laundry soap pods are worse for the environment. I bought liquid last time. Supposedly would be 94 loads. No way. Maybe I overused, but I don't think so. I am going back to pods. I need to know when I am running low by counting them. I think it depends on the brand of pods? I did read that even with the best pods (e.g., Seventh Generation), that the framework of the pods has some kind of plasticizer in them - but then with the liquid you're dealing with a big plastic jug, so -- ? I have a refill store near me, so am able to re-use two different plastic jugs. I also use a bit less than recommended, especially for a load of fitness-type clothing, because that hi-tech fabric usually needs less detergent, not more. so far, no one in the house is complaining. If he does, he can up his contribution to the laundry routine.
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Post by sprite on Mar 26, 2024 12:37:51 GMT -5
psw jury consultants are scary. criminal attorneys can be total hardasses. ive never been called. ive been interviewed. once the case was bout a guy who was attacked w a tool that the subway workers failed to put away safely. Here, there's no selection by the lawyers. They call a massive pool, people apply for exemptions from a list of reasons, then from the remainder, they draw 15 names. On the day of the verdict, 3 random members are removed from the voting--they are there in case of illness etc. in theory, you can only serve on the High court once in 10 years, and once in 5 for Sheriff's. In practice, I've been called nearly every year since moving to Scotland, and I've served twice. In the first case, it became clear that the key witnesses had been targeted by the defence (main hobby: slashing his enemies in the throat with a box cutter!), and in the second, the defence counsel convinced her client that although one of his accusers was hard to believe, the other 6 were very credible, so he changed his plea. The second one was near the end of Covid restrictions, and we all sat in a movie theatre watching events on a big screen. It was actually much better than being in the room, even though we each had a camera trained on us.
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Post by Phar Lap on Mar 26, 2024 18:39:17 GMT -5
Wow Phar, that's an unimaginable amount of work. ozzie I think you're going to need a nice long relaxing vacation at the end of all this! Eventually dad bought mum a wringer. Mum would “feed” the wet clothing/sheets etc from one side and it was my job to guide the fabric through the other side. Still very labourious though! It was clamped on the middle bit of the two concrete tubs.
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Post by HalcyonDaze on Mar 26, 2024 23:39:49 GMT -5
What is it with tradies who advertise they do small jobs not wanting to actually do said small job?
Rang one plumber yesterday, waited 24 hours, no call back, gave up.
Have rung another, meant to show up tomorrow, will wait and see.
Had similar run arounds when the contact person for strata, companies would contact me and then not show up, or start a job and not come back. Would take ages to get things done.
Had got noticeably worse over the past few years.
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Post by sprite on Mar 28, 2024 10:04:59 GMT -5
Wow Phar, that's an unimaginable amount of work. ozzie I think you're going to need a nice long relaxing vacation at the end of all this! Eventually dad bought mum a wringer. Mum would “feed” the wet clothing/sheets etc from one side and it was my job to guide the fabric through the other side. Still very labourious though! It was clamped on the middle bit of the two concrete tubs. We had one of those when I was a kid! We were on a well, so needed more control over water than most washing machines could allow. We were never allowed to touch it, my mom had heard too many horror stories of kids losing arms.
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Post by psw on Mar 28, 2024 11:30:36 GMT -5
We had a smaller wringer mounted on top of the washing machine, an open tub which did not spin. The wet items were removed by hand, feeding through the wringer, then to a basket, then out to the clothesline in the back yard. We also had presser-iron-thing (I forget the name of it, please help if you remember) a hot roller about 3ft wide, for pressing sheets and other large items. You could also do most of a shirt or slacks and finish off the rest with a regular iron. I'll look for a picture and post it if I find one. UPDATE: It's called a mangle, and the images are under Vintage or Grandma labels: something like this...
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