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Aug 7, 2023 17:31:51 GMT -5
Post by vinnyd on Aug 7, 2023 17:31:51 GMT -5
Laundries beat the hell out of shirts in my experience. They last about a third as long as shirts that you launder yourself.
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Post by Phar Lap on Aug 7, 2023 17:41:53 GMT -5
Vinny, your post made me think. I never ironed anything when I lived at home, neither did I ever mop a floor. We weren’t expected to. That explains a lot. But I had to dry the dishes which I detested, Webs. I would much rather have been outside helping dad mow the lawns and outdoor stuff like that. But my mother wouldn’t let me - why doesn’t brother have to dry the dishes? Because your brother is a boy! I told myself that when I grew up and had children, I’d make the boys make their own beds and dry dishes, and not given separate chores.
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Aug 7, 2023 20:01:24 GMT -5
Post by tzarine on Aug 7, 2023 20:01:24 GMT -5
the solution tho tzar sometimes handwashes some of his nicer shirts (ones made in india) Having these laundered would be the best thing. My dad had gorgeous silk and linen dress shirts and tuxedo shirts, those thing got laundered at the cleaners. thanks, webs will tell him to do that. he's afraid of the shell buttons getting damaged. his mumbai tailor was a lovely man. the shirts were shockingly inexpensive during my corporate daze i had my shirts laundered
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Post by crazycat on Aug 8, 2023 0:51:55 GMT -5
Most of my clothes don't need ironing and MrCat doesn't wear shirts often enough and has a large selection that they don't need ironing very often. I don't iron the kids clothes and thankfully CK1 only has polo shirts for school rather than proper shirts.
I also bring the washing in by person so it is easier to put away.
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Post by whothingie on Aug 8, 2023 1:34:45 GMT -5
Iron. I have one. Just not sure which cupboard it is in the back of.
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Post by groo on Aug 8, 2023 1:59:50 GMT -5
We have an fold down ironing board in a built in cupboard that also contains irons, but it is never used. I have just bought a shoe rack which I'll be putting in front of that cupboard.
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Post by Queen on Aug 8, 2023 2:04:32 GMT -5
The most likely use for my iron is to block finished knitting projects.
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Post by snowwhite on Aug 8, 2023 3:55:46 GMT -5
Finished knitting projects?
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Post by Queen on Aug 8, 2023 4:49:47 GMT -5
Finished knitting projects? Yes, I occasionally finish things. (You should see my insta ) But I've got an almost finished cotton knit top... it's a "design as you go" project, in other words I'm making it up as I go along and now I don't know how to do the neckline.... oops
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Aug 8, 2023 5:23:32 GMT -5
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Post by Liiisa on Aug 8, 2023 5:23:32 GMT -5
Anything that I iron (silk tops, linen napkins), gets ironed wet from the washer. I hate ironing things that are dry and wrinkled.
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Aug 8, 2023 6:48:37 GMT -5
Post by Phar Lap on Aug 8, 2023 6:48:37 GMT -5
As a very young married lady and first time mum, I still had the values of my upbringing, and certain nights were reserved for ironing. The husband worked afternoon shift 3 to 11:00PM, I’d be sitting on a chair, ironing board facing the television. Time went by and much, much later on the husband would take the iron out of my hands in disgust and iron his own shirt and trousers telling me I was hopeless. He expected perfection. It took him 20 minutes to iron one shirt to reach his standards.
Years further down the track, I had learned so many things and realised my education had been sorely lacking. All my sons preferred to iron their own shirts and trousers because mum does a terrible job ironing.
I used to hate darning holes in socks, don’t throw them out, just sew them like my mother did. At my auntie’s place, I mentioned the hole in sock problem. Auntie gave me good advice “Darling, Douglas (Uncle) is the same, all you do is put your fingers in like this to make the hole bigger, then say it’s not worth trying to darn them the hole’s too big!”
With all honesty, I can guarantee you 150% it works!
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Post by scicaro on Aug 8, 2023 8:09:05 GMT -5
The only things that get ironed by me are beadwork art projects the kids make and in progress sewing projects if required.
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Post by Webs on Aug 8, 2023 8:18:45 GMT -5
My brothers were just as responsible for their "chores" as I was. In fact, they had chores I didn't because a) they were older and b) I was very small and couldn't reach things.
My mother refused to do their laundry because they were smelly.
I know I have an iron somewhere but I'm not sure. My ironing board is stacked with clothes that have to go to goodwill or something like that.
DOWNY WRINKLE RELEASER - best freakin' invention yet.
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Aug 8, 2023 12:38:59 GMT -5
Post by sprite on Aug 8, 2023 12:38:59 GMT -5
yeah. its called weaponised incompetence. partner does the dishwasher--I sometimes unload it, but that's it. and he does it wrong--he's never read the manual, so uses too much product on the uber-long cycle and only gets 75% of the dishes in. drives me nuts. I could scream some days. and for a long time, I said, whatever, he does it, it gets done, I don't have to do it. it's worth the little extra we pay in electricity. but the extra salt he insists on strips the non-stick coating on pans, and the drying cycle is really hard on the dishes; plastics get warped, and anything with glue eventually dies--like our pot lids. we've bought more pots and lids in the 5 years of this house than in the 10 years of our relationship prior to that, and I pay for 50% of them. not happy, jan. he's just obsessed with the idea that in any cleaning process, longer is automatically better.
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Post by leela on Aug 8, 2023 12:47:30 GMT -5
My late father in law loved ironing. He also got a bit twitchy when they came to stay, because he was one of those people who had to be busy. So when they were due to come and stay, I'd save up my ironing for him. He was as happy as a clam!
When the kids were at school, there was loads of ironing. It was pre-polo shirt uniforms (proper shirt and tie from reception age!). So with their school shirts and my husband's work shirts, plus we didn't have a tumble dryer then, there was a lot of ironing. It was a Sunday night ritual. The Sunday evening light cod-drama on TV to distract us, my husband and I would do half each.
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Aug 8, 2023 13:00:44 GMT -5
Post by sprite on Aug 8, 2023 13:00:44 GMT -5
we moved our ironing board to our bedroom, and twice a year when I change my seasonal clothing, I just put a movie on the laptop and go through everything.
partner does his own clothing, but there's lots of space in our room to both store and use the iron, was a bit of a genius move on my part. (IMNSHO)
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Post by psw on Aug 8, 2023 13:04:23 GMT -5
My greatest coup in the MEN department was explaining to Mr.W that a sewing machine is a power tool. It even comes with a user's manual. Excellent results!
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Post by lisamnz on Aug 8, 2023 16:32:04 GMT -5
Iron. I have one. Just not sure which cupboard it is in the back of. LOL for quite a while the kids were convinced that we didn't actually own an iron, because it was never seen. LittleM actually said once that we'd better post something to Nana so that she could iron it for us (we occasionally post things to Nana for repairs, especially if it's something that she has knitted)
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Aug 8, 2023 16:37:02 GMT -5
Post by snowwhite on Aug 8, 2023 16:37:02 GMT -5
yeah. its called weaponised incompetence. partner does the dishwasher--I sometimes unload it, but that's it. and he does it wrong--he's never read the manual, so uses too much product on the uber-long cycle and only gets 75% of the dishes in. drives me nuts. I could scream some days. and for a long time, I said, whatever, he does it, it gets done, I don't have to do it. it's worth the little extra we pay in electricity. but the extra salt he insists on strips the non-stick coating on pans, and the drying cycle is really hard on the dishes; plastics get warped, and anything with glue eventually dies--like our pot lids. we've bought more pots and lids in the 5 years of this house than in the 10 years of our relationship prior to that, and I pay for 50% of them. not happy, jan. he's just obsessed with the idea that in any cleaning process, longer is automatically better. So what's your game plan here? Come on, we all want to play along at home.
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Post by lisamnz on Aug 8, 2023 17:11:46 GMT -5
to be honest, we don't wash pans in the dishwasher. they're just not good for some things.
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Post by kneazle on Aug 8, 2023 17:43:28 GMT -5
yeah. its called weaponised incompetence. partner does the dishwasher--I sometimes unload it, but that's it. and he does it wrong--he's never read the manual, so uses too much product on the uber-long cycle and only gets 75% of the dishes in. drives me nuts. I could scream some days. and for a long time, I said, whatever, he does it, it gets done, I don't have to do it. it's worth the little extra we pay in electricity. but the extra salt he insists on strips the non-stick coating on pans, and the drying cycle is really hard on the dishes; plastics get warped, and anything with glue eventually dies--like our pot lids. we've bought more pots and lids in the 5 years of this house than in the 10 years of our relationship prior to that, and I pay for 50% of them. not happy, jan. he's just obsessed with the idea that in any cleaning process, longer is automatically better. Reminds me of this cartoon. theoatmeal.com/comics/dishwasher
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Aug 8, 2023 19:09:45 GMT -5
Post by lisamnz on Aug 8, 2023 19:09:45 GMT -5
yup.
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Post by jimm on Aug 8, 2023 19:23:35 GMT -5
I do the dishwasher thing in my house. Only dishwasher-friendly things go in (read the label on the back), no pots or pans, no plastic except Tupperware, Decor (they are dishwasher-friendly) and use a cool cycle. I hand wash the rest. I read the manual when we first got it years ago. We only recently (maybe 6 months ago) started using it regularly - I used to hand wash everything - was only a rack full most nights.
Not all MEN are incompetent at everything. Everything does not have to be done perfectly, or even the way other people might like it done.
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Post by lisamnz on Aug 8, 2023 20:02:52 GMT -5
I do the dishwasher thing in my house. Only dishwasher-friendly things go in (read the label on the back), no pots or pans, no plastic except Tupperware, Decor (they are dishwasher-friendly) and use a cool cycle. I hand wash the rest. I read the manual when we first got it years ago. We only recently (maybe 6 months ago) started using it regularly - I used to hand wash everything - was only a rack full most nights. Not all MEN are incompetent at everything. Everything does not have to be done perfectly, or even the way other people might like it done. You're absolutely right. I'm fine with the washing being done imperfectly, by someone else. As long as he has a decent stab at doing it well. And sure, not all men. But many.
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Post by Liiisa on Aug 8, 2023 20:51:57 GMT -5
The only thing I feel strongly about if you're doing chores instead of me is: try not to destroy my favorite Italian steamer by boiling it dry. I paid a lot of money for that steamer and am likely not going to do it again, so then we'd have to use one of those crappy folding ones where the vegetables get stuck between the metal leaves and that would make me very cranky.
Otherwise, have at it
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Post by groo on Aug 9, 2023 1:01:59 GMT -5
I bought a new dishwasher in about September last year, but things became rather hectic around the house and I never got around to installing it. Then I was by myself and it just seemed easier to hand wash, especially as I was likely to run out of coffee mugs / wine glasses / sharp knoves etc before it was full.
Now that I've got the stuff up from our southern estates up here I'll have plenty of tableware so will be installing the dishwasher in the next week or so.
I do find that anything purchased new in the last 30 years or so is dishwasher safe, but will continue to handwash pots and pans.
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Post by jimm on Aug 9, 2023 1:23:04 GMT -5
"Not all MEN are incompetent at everything. Everything does not have to be done perfectly, or even the way other people might like it done."
But I too would have an issue with the matter raised in the OP by lizamnz - it sounds like a cop-out to me.
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Aug 9, 2023 5:21:38 GMT -5
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Post by ozziegiraffe on Aug 9, 2023 5:21:38 GMT -5
My greatest coup in the MEN department was explaining to Mr.W that a sewing machine is a power tool. It even comes with a user's manual. Excellent results! When I was teaching in Solomon Islands, I found my male students were better at using my electric sewing machine than the female ones. The girls had used manual machines, and couldn’t handle the speed.
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Post by Phar Lap on Aug 9, 2023 6:19:02 GMT -5
Now I don’t know if this is a male thing or not, but the four men in my life do not read manuals. When told there’s the manual, their response is the same - they either grunt and ignore it or say I don’t need it and then take a very long time figuring out their task.
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Post by wombatrois on Aug 9, 2023 9:38:03 GMT -5
*raises hand slowly*
I iron all the time b/c I only wear cotton and linen in summer. Right now I don't do that much, except there are some winter cottony things that I do iron. Winter here is not like your northern hemisphere winters (or even NZ ones).
Partner does all the washing, hanging on line and folding. Except my hand washing - I do that.
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